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when you combine this act with their attack on susan rice for what happened in libya when susan rice had nothing to do with what happened in libya, when you combine that gratuitous attack on her like this, it looks like they are back to their old ways, attacking women, ignoring women, attacking minorities and people of color. cynthia i think would agree with me, you don't make just points by putting people of color or women in positions. you have to change the under lying policy. >> otherwise it becomes meaningless window dressing. let me give you the chief strategist for the rahm romney campaign. stewart stevens wrote this. on november 6th, romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income. that means he carried the majority of middle class voter. let's remember that any party that carries the middle class must be doing something write. this is what he writes. but he didn't stop there. he also wanted to explain the blow without that romney faces at the hands of minorities, young voters and women. president obama was a
when you combine this act with their attack on susan rice for what happened in libya when susan rice had nothing to do with what happened in libya, when you combine that gratuitous attack on her like this, it looks like they are back to their old ways, attacking women, ignoring women, attacking minorities and people of color. cynthia i think would agree with me, you don't make just points by putting people of color or women in positions. you have to change the under lying policy. >>...
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rice was head of the african region for our state department. >> i should say that susan rice couldn't remember and wasn't able to give any particularly detailed answer, so they started with benghazi that failed. now in 1998. how long will it be before they ask for ms. rice's birth certificate? >> you know, i don't know. and i'm surprised by senator collins because she is a moderate within the republican party in the senate. usually a level-headed person. to bring the two together is a little extraordinary because in one benghazi, susan rice has, as richard eloquently said a moment ago, has nothing to do with anything in benghazi except she went on television to talk about it. but the situation in -- the bombings in the 1990s, while susan rice was in the clinton state department and, you know, had some sort of purview over that, but how the two are related is beyond me. the other thing senator collins says in that exchange is that, well, wait a minute, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves because she hasn't even been nominated for the position. and that's what makes this whole thin
rice was head of the african region for our state department. >> i should say that susan rice couldn't remember and wasn't able to give any particularly detailed answer, so they started with benghazi that failed. now in 1998. how long will it be before they ask for ms. rice's birth certificate? >> you know, i don't know. and i'm surprised by senator collins because she is a moderate within the republican party in the senate. usually a level-headed person. to bring the two together...
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ambassador susan rice. hank from las vegas says why are republican men always picking on democratic women like susan rice? this makes them appear very week. and denise thinks senator grahams and mack cane are still smarting over the 2008 loss. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. >>> it's like earning capital. you asked do i feel free. let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now i intend to spend it. >> the good ol' day, president bush flaunting his political capital in 2004. since last tuesday, republicans hav
ambassador susan rice. hank from las vegas says why are republican men always picking on democratic women like susan rice? this makes them appear very week. and denise thinks senator grahams and mack cane are still smarting over the 2008 loss. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature....
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save later. >>> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done. >> that was president obama today at his first cabinet meeting since winning re-election. today, she received this praise from secretary of state hillary clinton. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. and of course, this decision about my successor is up to the president. >> today, republican senators continued to try to open up the massachusetts senate seat that scott brown could run for. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> if the president wants an easy confirmation hearing and process, nominate john kerry, who is imminently qualified to be secretary of state and i believe he would sail through in the nominating process. >> joining me now, ari mel ber. ari, you're coming to us tonight from kerry country, boston and i've got to think this is a horrible moment for senator kerry. you don't want to be the guy who gets praise from the mi
save later. >>> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done. >> that was president obama today at his first cabinet meeting since winning re-election. today, she received this praise from secretary of state hillary clinton. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. and of course, this decision about my successor is up to the president. >> today, republican senators continued to try to open up the...
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they talk about coverups, what did susan rice know and when did they know it was terror. but today the truth came out. listen to what tom ricks, the defense expert and pulitzer price winner -- listen to what he has had to say. >> senator mccain says he would block any chance to nominate susan rice to become secretary of state. she's currently the u.n. ambassador. he seems to be backing away from that. what do you think? >> i think benghazi was hyped by this network especially and now that the campaign is over i think he's backing off a little bit. they are not going to stop susan rice from being secretary of state. >> benghazi was hyped, especially by the network, but it doesn't stop there. >> you have four people dead including the first u.n. ambassador. >> i see this focus on a small fire fight. i've covered a lot of fire fights. it's impossible to figure out what happens. second, i think that the effort of benghazi have been extremely political partly because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> all right. tom ricks, thank you very much for joining u
they talk about coverups, what did susan rice know and when did they know it was terror. but today the truth came out. listen to what tom ricks, the defense expert and pulitzer price winner -- listen to what he has had to say. >> senator mccain says he would block any chance to nominate susan rice to become secretary of state. she's currently the u.n. ambassador. he seems to be backing away from that. what do you think? >> i think benghazi was hyped by this network especially and...
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ambassador susan rice. hank melton says, "why are gop men always picking on democratic women like susan rice. this makes the gop appear very weak." and denise thinks senators graham and mccain are still smarting over the 2008 loss to the president. share your thoughts with us on @edshow. do that, please. >>> still to come, republicans try to deny it, but president obama won a clear mandate in the election. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. >>> it's like earning capital. you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way, i earned capital in the campaign, political capital. and now i intend to spend it. >> the good old days. president george w. bush flaunting his political capital at a press conference just two days after his re-election in 2004. since last tuesday, republicans have been making the rounds, denying president obama earned a mandate from voters in america. for instance, former vice presidential candidate and frequent rewriter of american industry, congressman paul ryan of wis
ambassador susan rice. hank melton says, "why are gop men always picking on democratic women like susan rice. this makes the gop appear very weak." and denise thinks senators graham and mccain are still smarting over the 2008 loss to the president. share your thoughts with us on @edshow. do that, please. >>> still to come, republicans try to deny it, but president obama won a clear mandate in the election. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. >>> it's like...
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ambassador susan rice. will the president go with the 2004 presidential candidate or his apparent favorite? and a report from gaza and the latest on the fighting there that i think could lead to a war with iran. this might be the first stage of that war. talk about the gop's woman problem. in story county, nevada, a republican businessman who employs lots of women just got elected commissioner. the thing is he employs lots of women. it's a brothel. >>> another victory for a democrat in a close house race. ron barber, the successor to gabrielle giffords, has won his race in southern arizona. barber defeated martha mcsally. it's barber, the democrat, who has emerged victorious. he was a district director for congresswoman giffords, and he was actually injured during the shooting that nearly killed her. >>> an update from florida in that race between patrick murphy and allen west. murphy's lead over west has grown by nearly 300 votes after a recount in st. lucy county, but west is still, unbelievably, refusing
ambassador susan rice. will the president go with the 2004 presidential candidate or his apparent favorite? and a report from gaza and the latest on the fighting there that i think could lead to a war with iran. this might be the first stage of that war. talk about the gop's woman problem. in story county, nevada, a republican businessman who employs lots of women just got elected commissioner. the thing is he employs lots of women. it's a brothel. >>> another victory for a democrat in...
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i like susan rice. she knows i like her. we've had a warm relationship. i think that she strikes me sometimes as more of a political operative than somebody who is -- you know, the secretary of state we hold to a very different standard. we do that with the secretary of treasury. sometimes the secretary of defense. they're sort of first among equals of other cabinet members, and i think that most of us want to see a degree of independence. i want you to know i'm not disqualifying her, okay? i'm telling you that certainly if she is nominated, i am going to give her a full hearing. i always do that -- >> let me put that in language we use here. you don't see here as a principle. you see her as an ally or an associate the president rather than as a principal separate from him? is that the way you're trying to say it? >> chris, in all the conversations i've had with her, you always feel it's sort of pushing a political point of view. when i have those same conversations with secretary clinton, i feel -- she's always supportive obviously of the president's age
i like susan rice. she knows i like her. we've had a warm relationship. i think that she strikes me sometimes as more of a political operative than somebody who is -- you know, the secretary of state we hold to a very different standard. we do that with the secretary of treasury. sometimes the secretary of defense. they're sort of first among equals of other cabinet members, and i think that most of us want to see a degree of independence. i want you to know i'm not disqualifying her, okay? i'm...
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a new way to save. >>> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she's done. >> the u.n. ambassador got a very public vote of confidence, and even a round of applause, yesterday when she and other cabinet members met at white house. she got the backing of the woman she might replace. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. >> it was a totally different story over on the hill, where the day after john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte tried to drive a stake through rice's nomination chances, susan colins and bob corker rose up out of the ground to sink they're teeth into her. "the washington post" today reports a white house official and democratic aides say they think rice could win senate confirmation from the top diplomatic job if obama nominated her. however the piece note her confirmation could come at a high political cost as lawmakers negotiate a deal on taxes and entitlement reform. and nbc news reports the president has yet to make up his mind over whether he will
a new way to save. >>> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she's done. >> the u.n. ambassador got a very public vote of confidence, and even a round of applause, yesterday when she and other cabinet members met at white house. she got the backing of the woman she might replace. >> susan rice has done a great job as our ambassador to the united nations. >> it was a totally different story over on the hill, where the day after john mccain,...
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she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more potential, is more worrisome for advocates for susan rice and even the criticism we heard from senators mccain and graham yesterday because she is a moderate, because she is a woman senator, because she's not the first one you think would be a critic of the president's pick of susan rice to be secretary of state and because she offered this great rose petal in the path of john kerry to be the secretary of state. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations the president trying to rally the middle class in favor of the tax increases on the rich, what is the next step in terms of the real key players which is the president and john boehner? i know they've been talking, there have been a l
she asked susan rice about it and susan rice said she would have to refresh her memory. >> i think the benghazi controversy opened the door to other senators, other critics of susan rice, to raise questions, including about her tenure when she was assistant secretary of state for african affairs and there is -- there has been criticism of her role there. i mean in some ways i think susan collins' criticism has more potential, is more worrisome for advocates for susan rice and even the...
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ambassador susan rice. the three senators emerged from the meeting saying they were honored by the fact that the cia director would meet with them, just three random senators and not in some official capacity testifying before committee on the hill. they appreciated the fact that the administration and the intelligence community was going to such lengths to e swaj their concerns to personally answer their questions about the libya attack in a closed-door meeting with the cia director himself, even though these are just three random senators. the senators said their questions were answered as reasonably could be expected and they were willing to consider the president's nominee for secretary of state. they were throwing hear out those nominations fairly and without prejudice. yeah right. that's not the way it went. here's actually what happened after that meeting today. >> we're not going to consider this nomination until we get answers to our concerns. we're not even close to getting the basic answers. >> w
ambassador susan rice. the three senators emerged from the meeting saying they were honored by the fact that the cia director would meet with them, just three random senators and not in some official capacity testifying before committee on the hill. they appreciated the fact that the administration and the intelligence community was going to such lengths to e swaj their concerns to personally answer their questions about the libya attack in a closed-door meeting with the cia director himself,...
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. >> so when the president says that susan rice was giving out -- talking about the most updated and -- fully documented intelligence that the intelligence community had, that's not true. >> last night the message was that susan rice was disseminating incorrect intelligence and the president is wrong for defending her. now here is mr. king today after an intelligence briefing. >> did he seem concerned that things had been changed? was that surprising to you? >> he seemed to say at the time they didn't realize the full significance of that and that or an unclassified statement it was acceptable. again, it's still very vague. >> petraeus told king today that, quote, for an unclassified statement this was acceptable. again, it's still very vague. dana, to paraphrase the president, republicans got out in front of their own skis on this one, didn't they? >> yes. well, in congress they have a tradition of revising and extending their remarks and i think peter king -- what peter king just said was "never mind." >> what he said earlier, what do we do with that? >> he was operating on incompl
. >> so when the president says that susan rice was giving out -- talking about the most updated and -- fully documented intelligence that the intelligence community had, that's not true. >> last night the message was that susan rice was disseminating incorrect intelligence and the president is wrong for defending her. now here is mr. king today after an intelligence briefing. >> did he seem concerned that things had been changed? was that surprising to you? >> he seemed...
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ambassador susan rice of covering up a national security breach. he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of ambassador chris stevens and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge head on and send rice up to the capitol to go face-to-face with the enemy? tonight we study the battlefield and the firepower of the two sides in this year-ending fire fight. mccain sure wants this fight, but do his fellow republicans? do they want an older white guy taking on the competence of a young woman of color, a rhodes scholar of solid reputation? most important, what end does the president want for this match of fact and wits? i'm joined by michael o'hanlon of the brookings institution and jonathan landay. the intelligence reporter for mcclatchy newsp
ambassador susan rice of covering up a national security breach. he says rice denied al qaeda's lead role in the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi that cost the lives of ambassador chris stevens and three others and she did so knowing it was true. well, the man who defeated mccain in the 2008 presidential campaign takes this as a personal shot at him. how will he respond? will he name ambassador rice his new secretary of state to replace hillary clinton? will he meet mccain's challenge...
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rice, is the nomination of susan rice to stay more likely to happen now? is the president saying, let's have the fight. let's do it. >> yesterday he had that sort of bring it on attitude and response. look, i just want to say a couple of things, though. senator graham and senator mccain are acting just childishly despicable. they know susan rice had intel. she said this is the intel we had at the time. this is what we know. they of all people know that condi rice who hay that had no problem supporting after she mistakenly or erroneously spread information about weapons of mass destruction herself pointed out that when things are unfolding, that's what an investigation is. it's what you know right now may not be what you know in a couple of weeks. it shows there's not a genuine attempt to work with the president. >> senator mccain was on the "today show" this morning. matt lauer asked him specifically about the two race situations. take ha look. >> you said opponents of condoleezza rice were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this differe
rice, is the nomination of susan rice to stay more likely to happen now? is the president saying, let's have the fight. let's do it. >> yesterday he had that sort of bring it on attitude and response. look, i just want to say a couple of things, though. senator graham and senator mccain are acting just childishly despicable. they know susan rice had intel. she said this is the intel we had at the time. this is what we know. they of all people know that condi rice who hay that had no...
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ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressive to turn them out to vote. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> joy reid, let's go after romney first and the way he's calculating how he lost. now, you can give all kinds of reasons for losing and, fair enough, that's what you do in your head. but when you spout the argument that the other guy bought all the interest groups, all the categories of citizens and that's -- that seems to diminish not just the purchaser but the purchase. you're basically saying these people were up for grabs, just buy them. you're never going to get them ever again if you talk about people that way it seems. >> exactly. and talking about more than half of the voting public as essentially bribery victims or being duped because t
ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressive to turn them out to vote. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> joy reid, let's go after romney...
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ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressive to turn them out to vote. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> joy reid, let's go after romney first and the way he's calculating how he lost. now, you can give all kinds of reasons for losing and, fair enough, that's what you do in your head. but when you spout the argument that the other guy bought all the interest groups, all the categories of citizens and that's -- that seems to diminish not just the purchaser but the purchase. you're basically saying these people were up for grabs, just buy them. you're never going to get them ever again if you talk about people that way it seems. >> exactly. and talking about more than half of the voting public as essentially bribery victims or being duped because t
ambassador susan rice. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressive to turn them out to vote. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> joy reid, let's go after romney...
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. >> that was -- they were, of course, clips referring to susan rice. to my ears that second clip sounds like what is known in military circles as a retreat. is that right? >> well, i think -- yes, it's right, martin, and senator mccain's retreat if that's what you want to call it, pretty good word, by the way, for this actually started a week ago sunday. this is the second sunday in a row where he is laying the groundwork for letting susan rice vhave her say if she's nominated. this seems prudent because carrying on a campaign against her when you don't know for sure if obama wants to nominate her can only go so far until something else happens. what senator mccain said two weeks ago is i think he wants an apology from her. that's the word he used. i don't know if he would get that because the administration says there's nothing to apologize for when it comes to ambassador rice. but, yes, change of tone, maybe a change of what his position will be when and if she's nominated. >> john, if i can finish with you, john, do you think that in light of what h
. >> that was -- they were, of course, clips referring to susan rice. to my ears that second clip sounds like what is known in military circles as a retreat. is that right? >> well, i think -- yes, it's right, martin, and senator mccain's retreat if that's what you want to call it, pretty good word, by the way, for this actually started a week ago sunday. this is the second sunday in a row where he is laying the groundwork for letting susan rice vhave her say if she's nominated....
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and the war on susan rice seems to be more in that latter category. whatever theories that they are picking up that happen to be by their side so they can wound her are about the implaqable project of political obstruction that's been a defining feature of republicans particularly in congress have conducted themselves in the obama era than it is the kind of association with the crazy fringe. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the record on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played, but we're going to play in a second. her reaction to that -- her diagnosis of that on the republican side and how she says it has been different in the past is fascinating and that's coming up. and it's apparently mraz. >> can i just say, every day, i get into my show and there's nine names that i forget to check the pronunciation. >> i'm sorry. i'll never do it again. chris hayes, i'm going to call it yupa. i hope you don't mind. we'll be right back. >>> the scariest sentence in the english language is this one. elizabeth warren will be the next senator from the state
and the war on susan rice seems to be more in that latter category. whatever theories that they are picking up that happen to be by their side so they can wound her are about the implaqable project of political obstruction that's been a defining feature of republicans particularly in congress have conducted themselves in the obama era than it is the kind of association with the crazy fringe. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the record on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played,...
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and the war on susan rice seems to be more in that latter category. whatever theories that they are picking up that happen to be by their side so they can wound her are about the implaqable project of political obstruction that's been a defining feature of republicans particularly in congress have conducted themselves in the obama era than it is the kind of association with the crazy fringe. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the record on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played, but we're going to play in a second. her reaction to that -- her diagnosis of that on the republican side and how she says it has been different in the past is fascinating and that's coming up. and it's apparently mraz. >> can i just say, every day, i get into my show and there's nine names that i forget to check the pronunciation. >> i'm sorry. i'll never do it again. chris hayes, i'm going to call it yupa. i hope you don't mind. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] kids grow up in no time... marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow do
and the war on susan rice seems to be more in that latter category. whatever theories that they are picking up that happen to be by their side so they can wound her are about the implaqable project of political obstruction that's been a defining feature of republicans particularly in congress have conducted themselves in the obama era than it is the kind of association with the crazy fringe. >> and i got nancy pelosi on the record on that subject yesterday in a clip we have not played,...
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whether or not they actually go through with the susan rice nomination to succeed hillary clinton, we don't know at this point. i certainly think that they would not shy away from the fight if they thought that susan rice was the best person for that nomination. >> did you not get the impression yesterday, mike, that that was the implication of the president's assertion that he really does want to appoint her and he will push it through? >> well, you know, that was a lot of the chatter behind closed doors leading up to the president's very passionate defense of her yesterday. you know, it's no secret that john kerry not only was interested in that job in 2008 after the election but remains interested in that job. so it remains to be seen now. there's a lot of talk for john kerry going down to the defense department. >> indeed. nbc's mike viqueira. thanks so much. we'll be right back to "clear the air." ah. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to give you a head start on your dinner. that seems easier [ female announcer ] new progresso recipe starters. five d
whether or not they actually go through with the susan rice nomination to succeed hillary clinton, we don't know at this point. i certainly think that they would not shy away from the fight if they thought that susan rice was the best person for that nomination. >> did you not get the impression yesterday, mike, that that was the implication of the president's assertion that he really does want to appoint her and he will push it through? >> well, you know, that was a lot of the...
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ambassador susan rice comments on the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> i don't even care about winning the $550 million. i just want to be paid with one of the giant checks. wouldn't that be great? take it to the bank, try to feed it into the atm? >>> i know that lotto money is going to be mine. even though the drawing hasn't happened yet, even though the odds of winning are 175 million to 1. because i bought 175 million tickets. and i'm guaranteed to win because every single one of these babies has the exact same lucky numbers. all right? so it's in the bank. i am mega rich. no more slaving away for the man 30 minutes a day, four days a week. >> you see, that was the controller's hating ritual usually when the wrong video airs, the anchor should interrupt but i let it breathe. still coming up, why you're awake. "morning joe" is moments away. [ male announcer ] this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve proble
ambassador susan rice comments on the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. >> i don't even care about winning the $550 million. i just want to be paid with one of the giant checks. wouldn't that be great? take it to the bank, try to feed it into the atm? >>> i know that lotto money is going to be mine. even though the drawing hasn't happened yet, even though the odds of winning are 175 million to 1. because i bought 175 million tickets. and i'm guaranteed to win because...
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>> maureen is really down on susan rice. this is the second anti-rice column she's done. >> i know susan rice should be a terrific secretary of state and hope she has at a minimum has a chance to go before the senate to have an opportunity to share with the country her views, vision and more importantly why she would make a great succe success -- >> was she just the messenger in all this? >> i take the president at his word. the buck stops with the president and he shared with the senate -- i thought he shared it in somewhat an elegant way if you want to pick a fight, pick a fight with me. >> hung out to dry on that but given talking points that -- >> it was curious to listen to mccain yesterday after the meeting who seemed to be more bothered after the meeting than he was before the meeting. >> all three of them said they were more troubled -- >> i can't tell if it was the facts around benghazi or actually the ambassador herself that rankled feathers more. >> what do you mean by that. >> if and the she -- if answers she pro
>> maureen is really down on susan rice. this is the second anti-rice column she's done. >> i know susan rice should be a terrific secretary of state and hope she has at a minimum has a chance to go before the senate to have an opportunity to share with the country her views, vision and more importantly why she would make a great succe success -- >> was she just the messenger in all this? >> i take the president at his word. the buck stops with the president and he...
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picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone in history. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the president itself. kerry won 252 electoral votes back in 2004 against a sitting chief executive, a wartime president at that. a leading critic of the war in vietnam, a five-time elected senate, the chairman of the senate of foreign relations committee has contacts around the world. he's just the sort of heavyweight obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together this week for ambassador susan rice. the president is right about their bad purposes and bad arguments. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting used to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when their real
picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone in history. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the president itself. kerry won 252 electoral votes back in 2004 against a sitting chief executive, a wartime president at that. a leading critic of the war in vietnam, a five-time elected senate, the chairman of the senate of foreign relations committee has contacts around the world. he's...
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rice because susan rice read the intel briefings. she knew what the truth was and she chose to read something, if the script was handed to her, dowd's point, steve ratner, if the script was inaccurate and misleading, she shouldn't have read it. >> i think we have to go through this logically. what we know -- i think what we know is the cia produced a set of talking points that included al qaeda, included more specific references to what happened. somewhere during interagency process, and i've been through a bunch of these processes people mark them up. somewhere along the way those words were changed. >> al qaeda was taken. and the suggestion is by republicans that it was political. that's one suggestion. and, again, the president's punch line for a lot of speeches, osama bin laden's dead, al qaeda is on the run. >> that's one suggestion but before you get to the question of what susan rice should or shouldn't have said i think we immediate to know the answer of who changed the talking points and why. >>> coming up, why mitt still do
rice because susan rice read the intel briefings. she knew what the truth was and she chose to read something, if the script was handed to her, dowd's point, steve ratner, if the script was inaccurate and misleading, she shouldn't have read it. >> i think we have to go through this logically. what we know -- i think what we know is the cia produced a set of talking points that included al qaeda, included more specific references to what happened. somewhere during interagency process, and...
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picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. the secretary of state stands alone had history, holding the most stature but for the president himself. ker are ry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a leading critic of the war latinoer, a five-time sort the heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together for ambassador susan rice. they are precisely the same as those used in the swift voting to keep john kerry from the presidency. they attack her for her early explanation of the horror of benghazi when the real complaint is something that she had nothing to do about, the death of our ambassador chris stevens. the real complaint was his opposition to the vietnam war on his return. swift voting is now sadly a practiced art. it's character assassination with a head fake. for president obama, the challenge for this week is to make the right pick for the country, not react one way or another to the jack kells out
picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. the secretary of state stands alone had history, holding the most stature but for the president himself. ker are ry won 252 electoral votes against the sitting chief executive, a war time president at that. a leading critic of the war latinoer, a five-time sort the heavyweight that obama picked the first time. i say this even as i detest the lynch mob that's thrown itself together for ambassador susan rice. they are precisely the...
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did that take out some of the sting on susan rice? >> i think so. they played down the terrorist involve document make obama look better to make it look like there hadn't been a terrorist attack. petraeus said they had taken out references to the groups involved so the groups didn't know they were being monitored. >> scott, senator dianne feinstein defended rice and took it one step further defending her possible nomination as secretary of defense. >> to select ambassador rice because she used an unclassified talking point, to say she is unqualified to be secretary of state, i think, is a mistake. >> so, scott, were rice's chances of being nominated just decreased? >> i think so. senator feinstein is using a white house talking point on ambassador rice. this is their point all alooping, any could have read those talking points who was put forward that sunday to give them. scapegoating ambassador rice should not be -- it would be unfair. you heard the president say that in his press conference this week, that it was besmirching her reputation and he
did that take out some of the sting on susan rice? >> i think so. they played down the terrorist involve document make obama look better to make it look like there hadn't been a terrorist attack. petraeus said they had taken out references to the groups involved so the groups didn't know they were being monitored. >> scott, senator dianne feinstein defended rice and took it one step further defending her possible nomination as secretary of defense. >> to select ambassador rice...
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rice had and that susan rice spoke to in those appearances. >> we already know that. we're hoping to get new information out of the hearings tomorrow. there's still unanswered questions. >> and we'll get our first look at david petraeus since all this exploded less than a week ago. >>> coming up next, mitt romney reflected on why he lost the analysis and his analysis anger some in his own party. what he said next in the "politico playbook." >>> also, we'd talk to senator-elect angus king who announced yesterday he will caucus with the democrats. nbc news political director, chuck todd, will be with us along with nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell and later, "american idol" judge randy jackson. how's that for a lineup? >>> first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> don't even fit after randy. not even close. and the sexiest guy alive. rough competition this morning. good morning, everyone. here's what we're dealing with out there. we're a week away from thanksgiving. we don't need any travel headaches as we get towards the busy season. do
rice had and that susan rice spoke to in those appearances. >> we already know that. we're hoping to get new information out of the hearings tomorrow. there's still unanswered questions. >> and we'll get our first look at david petraeus since all this exploded less than a week ago. >>> coming up next, mitt romney reflected on why he lost the analysis and his analysis anger some in his own party. what he said next in the "politico playbook." >>> also, we'd...
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rice, national security adviser tom donilon. although there's been talk about the benghazi attacks may have hurt her chances. is kerry the front runner? >> kerry has a lot going for him because he has negotiated around the world. he's been senate foreign relations chair. he obviously spent a lot of time with the president. we shouldn't underestimate how important @ to have a real chemistry with the president. there's a lot of trust to develop. obviously president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton had a great chemistry and really relied on each other. there was a trust built up there. so i think that's the real test is whether the president can really trust john kerry to speak for him and he e spent a lot of time with him recently. so i think he has a good sense of that by now. >> there's been a lot of talk about by the president about bipartisanship. this is one area where people have suggested maybe he'd reach across the aisle and pick a republican. names mentioned included jon huntsman, chuck hagel and colin powell.
rice, national security adviser tom donilon. although there's been talk about the benghazi attacks may have hurt her chances. is kerry the front runner? >> kerry has a lot going for him because he has negotiated around the world. he's been senate foreign relations chair. he obviously spent a lot of time with the president. we shouldn't underestimate how important @ to have a real chemistry with the president. there's a lot of trust to develop. obviously president obama and secretary of...
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susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. >> members of the congressional black caucus up in arms and some are even pulling out the race and sexist card. >> i would have stood. >> how vile. how vile. >> judy joule is standing by to tell us who took terrorists out of it. ♪ let's hear it for the boy let >> hostess is going out of business. borders is going out of business. what about these guys? they're also out of business. >> doesn't matter where the entitlements come from. millions of americans want them. >> i'm a balloon boy. >> oh, my gosh. >> we have not followed that story like we should have. >>> let's get to our panel now. toure is the co-host of the cycle and my msnbc colleague and msnbc contributor jonathan capehart is with us at the "washington post." toure, mr. o'reilly now says that those who make less than $30,000 won this election for the president because they were looking forward to free stuff. is it now the poor who are destroying what about o'reilly calls traditional america? >> apparently. i'm glad he's so brilliant th
susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better, she's not qualified. >> members of the congressional black caucus up in arms and some are even pulling out the race and sexist card. >> i would have stood. >> how vile. how vile. >> judy joule is standing by to tell us who took terrorists out of it. ♪ let's hear it for the boy let >> hostess is going out of business. borders is going out of business. what about these guys? they're also out of...
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. >> how to prepare rice for thanksgiving, but let's talk about susan rice. >> a good snack. it's nice to see. >> it's not just a snack anymore. it's the san francisco treat, but go ahead. >> it's nice that senator mccain still has the capacity to read the writing on the wall. you know, the story over the last few days has been, you know, listening to republicans who have not taken such an aggressive position as he had taken, you know, kind of quietly saying the only way we can stop her is to filibuster her, and that's not a fight we want as he starts to realize the rest of the republican party in the senate is not ready to do that, he's climbing down from his rather absurd position of last week. >> you know, he says, willie, he watches "morning joe" every morning. i think he heard us suggest -- >> steam coming out of his ears. >> but he realized, though, we were right. we were right again. that maybe they shouldn't kick around susan rice after this election. >> i maintain that there are real questions to be asked and answered about what happened. but the way that senator mcc
. >> how to prepare rice for thanksgiving, but let's talk about susan rice. >> a good snack. it's nice to see. >> it's not just a snack anymore. it's the san francisco treat, but go ahead. >> it's nice that senator mccain still has the capacity to read the writing on the wall. you know, the story over the last few days has been, you know, listening to republicans who have not taken such an aggressive position as he had taken, you know, kind of quietly saying the only way...
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but susan rice was sent to give a white house message. it was not an intelligence community message. and there's a very clear distinction in that. >> andrea, it's david up here in new york. i have a question for you on some of the bigger fights here. i mean, isn't this really beyond the susan rice questions, which i know are going to be litigated fiercely, about what was happening on the ground in terms of protecting u.s. personnel, namely the ambassador, what kind of coordination was there, or was there not between the cia presence which was substantial in benghazi and state department security? >> well, i think those are the questions that i would suspect senator chambliss and dianne feinstein and their house counterparts are also going to be asking because they want to know the time line. they had five separate beyond warnings, five separate incidents, as senator feinstein has made very clear. and as we have been told. five separate incidents in benghazi against the british ambassador, against our own consulate in the months leading up
but susan rice was sent to give a white house message. it was not an intelligence community message. and there's a very clear distinction in that. >> andrea, it's david up here in new york. i have a question for you on some of the bigger fights here. i mean, isn't this really beyond the susan rice questions, which i know are going to be litigated fiercely, about what was happening on the ground in terms of protecting u.s. personnel, namely the ambassador, what kind of coordination was...
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susan rice's comments didn't send us to iraq and afghanistan. >> let the church say amen. like that difference between the benghazi situation and what we saw the bush administration do around iraq, that distance is huge. >> it also is a difference between having people who are able and there and available to stand up and call it for what it is. >> thank goodness. >> sorry. go ahead. >> the nexus of the assumed lack of power and support that is historical assumption based on the fact that white men used to have exclusive power and you assume that people who are female and of color do not have that power. that is changing. women and people of color just elected the president. they just elected the senators. i mean -- >> the ma yort of the democratic party in congress. >> you have marcia fudge. you have the women who yelled at luke russert a few weeks ago behind nancy pelosi with a comment about age. there's now a more visible -- to point out that this attack is baseless. >> the most difficult coalition to keep together. the other thing we'll see is a supreme court of the uni
susan rice's comments didn't send us to iraq and afghanistan. >> let the church say amen. like that difference between the benghazi situation and what we saw the bush administration do around iraq, that distance is huge. >> it also is a difference between having people who are able and there and available to stand up and call it for what it is. >> thank goodness. >> sorry. go ahead. >> the nexus of the assumed lack of power and support that is historical assumption...
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picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone inhistory. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the presiden kerry won 252 electoral votback chief exutive, a aea
picking susan rice would be good. picking kerry would be better. since thomas jefferson, the post of secretary of state stands alone inhistory. despite its nature, a role holding the most stature, but for the presiden kerry won 252 electoral votback chief exutive, a aea
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but the president clearly likes susan rice. i'm told that he wants her. there is a confidence on the part of senate democrats that she would be confirmed. and frankly, at this point, how would the president look in terms of his strength and bargaining if he were to back town in t down in the face of the opposition? a lot of democrats are wondering whether this is worth the cost given all the other issues that the white house needs to address. but i guess i'm coming down on the side of more likely rather than less likely in terms of the nomination. >> and we haven't heard a peep from john kerry and apparently he's told people don't push for him. so interesting strategy there as well. chris, ruth, thank you both. >>> also today, as the u.n. general assembly gets ready to vote on whether to upgrade palestine's status, israel says it would be a violation of their peace accords. mahmoud abbas submitted a resolution asking to be recognized as a nonmember state and it is likely to be approved with the support of several european countries. israel says it could r
but the president clearly likes susan rice. i'm told that he wants her. there is a confidence on the part of senate democrats that she would be confirmed. and frankly, at this point, how would the president look in terms of his strength and bargaining if he were to back town in t down in the face of the opposition? a lot of democrats are wondering whether this is worth the cost given all the other issues that the white house needs to address. but i guess i'm coming down on the side of more...
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and now we hear that maybe two or three senators that don't like what susan rice did on a sunday show a couple of weeks ago could aeffectively stand in the way of having the president having the secretary of state that he wants out there in the world. is that another reform? >> they don't seem enthusiastic about that. my favorite is jim bunning, the republican from kentucky, once put a hold on a nomination, i think, to the trade commission because he was upset that canada was borrowing chocolate-flavored cigars and importing them. so you can put a hold on for anything. and they seemed to kind of like that. that doesn't seem to be on the top of their priority list. the top is just to be able to get a bill to the floor and have a debate on it without having the 60-vote thing. >> i think to follow up on joe's point about the susan rice issue and the idea of a hold, what are the political impacts of filibusters in this new environment that we find ourselves in post-election and particularly with respect to the susan rice piece which is -- ha, gender, all these little sexy pieces to it, ho
and now we hear that maybe two or three senators that don't like what susan rice did on a sunday show a couple of weeks ago could aeffectively stand in the way of having the president having the secretary of state that he wants out there in the world. is that another reform? >> they don't seem enthusiastic about that. my favorite is jim bunning, the republican from kentucky, once put a hold on a nomination, i think, to the trade commission because he was upset that canada was borrowing...